Alex Holder said that during the interview he conducted for his Discovery + Documents UnprecedentedDonald Trump has never backed down from claiming that the election was rigged, while his children, including Ivanka, have supported his father’s post-election challenge.
Yet Holder’s access to the first family is not the only reason the January 6th committee was interested in his footage, which put him in the spotlight this week that his contents were subpoenaed and he appeared for a private statement.
The committee, Holder said in an interview with Deadline, is also examining footage from Jan. 6, when he was not only shooting at Trump’s rally that morning in Ellipse but when he went with the photography director, he was in chaos. Capital. The DP was attacked and some part of the camera was broken.
Holder declined to go into details, but said the footage of the day was “definitely unique.” He said it has probably seen “the clearest version of that day,” capturing the scene described as a battlefield.
Ever since reports of the documentary’s existence surfaced, the nature of the project has been the subject of conspiracies, curiosity and some misconceptions and assumptions about what the holder was doing. His lawyer, Russell Smith, did not request that Trump and his family give him editorial control over the project, which he said Discovery + plans to air in three parts this summer.
“It’s totally crazy. I think at the beginning of the week, I started with 112 followers on Twitter, most of them were from my family, and by the end of the week, I think I got 35,000, 3 million views on the video. That little clip. We put it out. Holder said. “So completely useless.”
Holder, a British native currently living in the United States, said he was working on a documentary on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict when he met Jason Greenblatt, the Middle East ambassador to Trump. “I interviewed him for my project on the Middle East and we were talking about a documentary about the Trump family and it was in early 2020.” He said they continued to discuss such a project, on the condition that Trump would not have editorial control, and that he was introduced to them “and that was it.” He confirmed that Greenblatt had put him in touch with Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner.
There is some speculation as to why his family agreed to participate. “One was clearly my introduction. The second was that I didn’t have any kind of political skin in the game. And the third, which is probably the most important, is that they were very confident of winning the 2020 election,” he said. “So here was a chance to document someone winning the election.”
They started filming in September 2020, when the campaign was in full swing. Some of the clips released were interviews with Trump and Ivanka, who said they also gave the president and his children access to the wall. The access he had to the president and his family to Air Force One and rallies was “very extraordinary,” he said. He cited an example with Trump when his DP was “closer to him than his secret service.”
Although they were not given access to Trump’s private quarters on election night – moments that were centered on the Jan. 6th committee – Holder said “there are some intimate, interesting moments behind the scenes in the campaign.”
After Holder testified Thursday, Holder’s lawyer Smith told reporters that one of the committee’s focus was on the possible “inconsistency” between what Ivanka Trump told him and what he said in the documentary footage. In her statement, she told the committee that after Attorney General William Barr told Trump he had no qualifications to claim widespread electoral fraud, he “accepted” Barr’s findings. Yet in documentary footage shot in December 2020, she said her father “should take this fight.”
“I don’t know what she said to her father, but I know what she said to me, which echoed very similar ideas and situations that her father was echoing at the time,” Holder said. “For me, I imagined what she believed in me and the true answer to what I asked. And for me, it was not surprising. In general, in my interactions with Trump’s three children, they have always echoed their father’s position and tried their best to support him.” Are
Holder said the documentary will also explore the lives and interactions of Trump’s three children. He spoke with Trump’s two sons, including Don Jr., who was interviewed the day before the last election and is seen as a brother willing to pursue his own political career.
The focus of the committee’s hearing has been a parade of administration and campaign officials who, in statements and direct testimonies, described how they did not buy into Trump’s claim of electoral fraud and told him so. Holder said that in the post-election period he spoke to “many people working on projects with his ideas” about the reality of the election, even though he did not do interviews for documentaries.
He interviewed Trump twice before and after January 6.
Despite hearing Trump’s claim that the election was rigged, Holder said he did not believe in himself. He also said his role was to capture history, “as the United States president said in the White House,” not to act in an additional prosecuting role to challenge his electoral claims.
“I think I saw a tweet where someone commented that I had Stockholm Syndrome,” Holder said. “I said, ‘I believe Donald Trump won the election,’ and so people think I’m being deceived by Donald Trump. That’s not what I’m trying to say. I mean, it’s really dangerous to treat someone who believes in something so absurd that It’s effectively confusing, but that’s my point of view. That’s what I learned from my interview with Donald Trump.
“I already thought he knew it was absurd and so, eventually there will come a time where he can’t maintain absurdity, because eventually the evidence will be there,” he said. “The point is that the evidence is out, and he still clearly maintains the position. The point is that he is obsessed with this belief, without recognizing all the evidence against what he said, which means to me that he is living in a kind of reality that is very There are no people. “
Holder said that about a month after the election, he began to believe that he could put together a sizzle reel to allow distributors to purchase the documentary project, “and then, obviously, everything changed.”
The night before Jan. 6, Holder said, he texted his DP, half-jokingly, “I think the president has told everyone to march on the Capitol tomorrow. And so he planned how to deal with its practicalities.”
They showed up to shoot the rally the next day, until “it was clear there might be some disruption. [the electoral vote count] Or to put pressure on the Vice President that day.
He said that an agreement was reached with Discovery Plus last year after taking the project to various distributors. They plan to release it this summer, but so far their plans are hidden. Holder declined to say why Discovery did so, a question for him.
He said that he was not surprised when the committee got wind of the project on January 20 and also estimated their interest. He said they were “very visible during the project” so there were many ways they could find out. “What they’re interested in, it’s really their call. I don’t know what that is,” he said.
Rep. Jamie Ruskin (D-MD), a committee member, said he received a letter tipping on the project but did not identify who gave it to him. But Holder said there were “many reasons and ways for the committee to find out what we’re doing.”
“I had an inevitability in my mind, but I’m really honest, I don’t know. I have a lot of principles,” he said.
Two Danish filmmakers working on a project about Roger Stone have rejected a request from the committee and the Justice Department for footage, citing freedom of the press. But Holder, along with filmmaker Nick Quested, who was working on a documentary about the far-right group The Proud Boys, received subpoenas, and everyone decided to cooperate.
“I think both positions are valid,” Holder said. “For me, after seeing the public hearing sequence and looking at the material presented, and knowing the material we had, again: the events of January 6 … it made no sense. Take a stand not to give them away. We just finished filming. It’s been a few months. Was coming out, and it was similar to the subpona coming. Trying to fight that didn’t seem very meaningful, especially in light of the material we captured. He refused to go into too much detail about that material because “because of the fact they’re going through it now.”
He also said that he would give a public statement if asked in the committee. “Of course,” he said.
He said he had not heard from Trump or his team since the news of Subpona came out. And although he did not disclose further details of the project, such as his interview with Vice President Mike Pence, he indicated that there would be no footage where Trump doubted his election claim.
“He has a position that is not established in reality,” Holder said. “He believes the election was rigged and rigged, which is an irrational and dangerous and confusing approach, and we have seen what this scene does and invites.”